This was a good scenic hike full of big ass trees, and big ass stones. I actually skied down some of this mountain because it was 7.5 miles round trip. The elevation is 7600ft and my legs were on fire. The streams were beautiful and cold. Also the mountain was crowded because it is the route of the Amgen Tour of California 2012. I recommend this hike if you even do not make it to the top.